LivingColors / LivingWhites adapter starter set part 2 : adapter

 

The LivingWhites adapter doesn’t really have many surprises. The only two notable things are that the entire high voltage side is from ST parts (VIPER16 , 2 x 14NM65NST1S10 ) and the other surprise is the other LED not in the manual.

The non surprising part is the CC2530 IEEE802.15.4 chip .

 

 

 

LivingColors / LivingWhites adapter starter set part 1 : remote

Here is what is inside the LivingAmbiance / SmartLink / LivingWhites (they should really use less of these trademarks) remote

 

LivingWhites remote pcb
LivingWhites remote pcb

 

On the left : a TI CC2530 a “Second Generation System-on-Chip Solution for 2.4 GHz IEEE 802.15.4 / RF4CE / ZigBee”

On the right :  a Cypress CY8C2044624 a CapSense controller.

The CC2530 has the 2.4 GHz transmitter and reciever and a microcontroller for the wireless protocol. The Cypress chip handles the buttons and probably the LED’s and speaker (the big square on the right). The UX logic can be in any two of the chips.

The PCB has some capsense buttons that are not on the faceplate. I assume the same PCB is used for both the LivingWhites and LivingColors remotes.

Livingcolors Gen 2 WILL work with Livingcolors SmartLink

 

Correction :

Die hard nerds know this all along : don’t trust the manual. I tried this out in a big store and Rde in the comments pointed this out as well.

In a previous post this was still unclear, now it’s sort of confirmed : the Gen2 remote wil work just fine with the SmartLink lamps and adapters and the Livingwhites Smartlink remote will work with the plain Gen2.

So now it’s clear there are only two generations and protocols : The Gen1 and the SmartLink.

The picture in the manual for the LivingWhites Starterpack adapters  is still pretty confusing:

LivingColors remotes, Gen2 no Smartlink
LivingColors remotes, Gen2 no Smartlink

The one on the right could be the Gen2 remote but also the Gen1 remote.

Philips adds new models to LivingColors product line.

In a clever plan to keep their customers permanently slightly confused, Philips has added new models to their LivingColors product line. The boxes and lamps are virtually the same, the remote is different. Both versions are labeled as “Generation 2”

LivingColors Gen2 but no SmartLink
LivingColors Gen2 but no SmartLink

The new buzzword is “smartlink“.

LivingColors Gen2 with SmartLink
LivingColors Gen2 with SmartLink

According to the manuals, both the old ( 69143 ) and the new version ( 69171 ) of the Gen 2 lamps  use IEEE 802.15.4.

So now we have the “Generation 1” which does not work  with the “Generation 2”, and there is the “Generation 2 smartlink“. Gen 1 and Gen 2 will not work with each other and i’m pretty confused about mixing “Gen 2” with and without “smartlink“.

The original LivingColors was pretty over engineered of what it did and it gave me the impression that Philips had bigger plans for these lamps. Apparently they do now with smartlink, but the original LivingColors was more of a prototype.

smartlink is interesting and promising. Philips was one of the founders of the Zigbee name and concept and they used some of the concepts and protocols of Zigbee for the smartlink enabled LivingAmbiance lamps.

For now, I’m stuck with two incompatible lamps.