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Livingcolors Gen 2 WILL work with Livingcolors SmartLink

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Correction :

Die hard nerds know this all along : don't trust the manual. I tried this out in a big store and Rde in the comments pointed this out as well.

In a previous post this was still unclear, now it's sort of confirmed : the Gen2 remote wil work just fine with the SmartLink lamps and adapters and the Livingwhites Smartlink remote will work with the plain Gen2.

So now it's clear there are only two generations and protocols : The Gen1 and the SmartLink.

The picture in the manual for the LivingWhites Starterpack adapters  is still pretty confusing:

LivingColors remotes, Gen2 no Smartlink

LivingColors remotes, Gen2 no Smartlink

The one on the right could be the Gen2 remote but also the Gen1 remote.

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  1. I am under the impression That THE old gen 2 lamps also works with the new smartlink remotes.
    So if you buy a new gen 2 you probably can use That remote with THE old gen 2. Still not with the gen 1 tho. Confusing indeed. I hope THE new one gets more popular so somone with a zigbe sniffer gets his Hans on it and reverse engineers THE protocol.

  2. Will you be working on a new shield for the gen 2/smartlink protocol?

  3. The Gen1 protocol was unencrypted and hacked by sprite (thanks Sprite !) by eavesdropping on the communication between the MSP430 and the CC2500. The Gen2 seems to be using Zigbee transport with encrypted payload which may be much much harder to decode.

    I’m preparing some posts about the internals of the remote and adapters.And there are some things i’d like to look in to like the communication between the CC2530 and the Cypress touch controller, and I’d like to spend some time looking at the actual over the air trafic between the devices.

  4. @Rde: I haven’t read it with much care, but somebody has realized a low cost sniffer: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/01/low-cost-zigbee-sniffer-made-with-o.html

    I for one would be very interested in some Gen2 hack: I don’t have any experience with Arduino (and it’s been a while since I’ve soldered anything at all) but I’d definitely try to implement something like that.

  5. Really interested in the possible new gen2 “smartlink” shield. I have 2 livingwhites hanging in my livingroom and was thinking of building an ethernet controlled version. Keeping an eye on this thread! :)

    Greetings from Antwerp!

  6. @Arturex: Nice find. I m afraid that just sniffing packets might not be enought tho because of the encryption.
    I am reading up on vulnerabilities in Ti’s z stack like http://travisgoodspeed.blogspot.com/2009/12/prng-vulnerability-of-z-stack-zigbee.html.
    But im a high level programmer that hardly knows how to program a microship pic, so its prety hard for me.

  7. Comment on the picture of remotes. My understanding is this .. The one with NO triangle-shaped pointers on (far right) is first generation that does not work with new Smartlink /LivingColor /LivingAmbiance /protocol


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